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From a video posted by [[Larsonleak|Larsonleak raw]] on the 12th of May, 2024 featuring [[Kusari]], a phone call from the 6th of May 2024 was leaked where Clark had revealed everything to Daniel.  
From a video posted by [[Larsonleak|Larsonleak raw]] on the 12th of May, 2024 featuring [[Kusari]], a phone call from the 6th of May 2024 was leaked where Clark had revealed everything to Daniel.  


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{{blue|Automated voice: ...and follow facility instructions to register this number as a private number. To consent to this recorded call, press 1.}}
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[Call lasts for another 16 minutes, mostly Daniel giving muffled responses and repeating himself. Clark hangs up.]
[Call lasts for another 16 minutes, mostly Daniel giving muffled responses and repeating himself. Clark hangs up.]
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=== '''Final Phone Call''' ===
Daniel called Clark for the last time on May 9, 2024. Clark reluctantly agreed to do this after members convinced him to.
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{{blue|Automated Voice: ...recorded and may be monitored. If you believe this should be a private call, please hang up and follow facility instructions to register this number as a private number. To consent to this recorded call, press 1.}} {{green|*Clark presses 1*}} {{blue|To disconnect... Thank you for using [REDACTED]. You may start the conversation now.}}
{{red|Daniel: Hello?}}
{{green|Clark: Hi Daniel. OK, so pu-}}
{{red|Daniel: Hi. I- Sorry, before you say anything, I wanna tell you that I am extremely sorry and I want to try to fix our friendship.}}
{{green|Clark: I mean, it's not just- I feel like you have a lot of people to say sorry to mostly. Not just me, more like Bob, and the di- the restaurants and all the people that... even Grace in a way for tormenting her and her family for the past couple years.}}
{{red|Daniel: I- I agree and I will take the blame, but I want to fix everything, you know? We all make mistakes and, you know, we all make mistakes and it's how we move forward.  Right, and it's how we make progress.}}
{{green|Clark: I agree and I know that Bob's been talking to you recently, so I hope you said sorry to him and everything, 'cause I'm surprise he's even still talking to you after what everything that went down.}}
{{red|Daniel: I- I understand. And you know, with- with Grace I also understand what you said about it.}}
{{green|Clark: And.. that starts with me being honest too, and I regret even all the fake Graces and all that, yeah, that wasn't right to do for Grace too, 'cause I don't know her in real life and I know she was probably not happy with people pretending to be her for the past couple years, so that does start with us too. But, the way you took it was a little too far in some ways, and I mean, and I do think-}}
{{red|Daniel: *interrupts* I-I-I do agree. }}
{{green|Clark: Yeah.}}
{{red|Daniel: You know, I... we've been in contact for so long now, you know what I mean, I- I want us to be friends.}}
{{green|Clark: I mean, you do understand everything I told you though in the last call, like all of this has been pretty much made up. I know it's for you to- to know but you gotta realize that before the trial, before they think you're crazy.}}
{{red|Daniel: Right, and, you know, I- I agree.}}
{{green|Clark: I mean, and...}}
{{red|Daniel: And, *stammers* I do have to say that I do kind of know what, well I do know what my public defender is going to ask tomorrow, but I don't know if they're going to approve it this time or the next court date, but I do know that we're making progress in the right direction.}}
{{green|Clark: OK, well I think this was a good conversation, but everything starts with a couple sorries here and there. Do you have anything that you wanna say to like, everybody out there? Like, 'cause I'm getting people are gonna get these phone calls through that so I- you should, if you wanna explain yourself to everybody on, on Reddit...}}
{{red|Daniel: Right.. you know, what I want- what I want is, I want an apology to the entire fanbase, and not only to the fanbase, but I want, you know, an apology going out about the leaking of the phone calls, stuff like that.}}
{{green|Clark: And just, everything. Even Sky Brown. *chuckles*}}
{{red|Daniel: Just like, ''literally everything'' at this point. You know, I mean, if we go into detail, it's gonna be way too much right now.}}
{{green|Clark: True.}}
{{red|Daniel: You know what I mean? And we're on a timed phone call with, you know, money going through. I'm to a point to where, like, I wanna try to fix this with everything, and I want the real truth to be heard.}}
{{green|Clark: And the truth will be heard Daniel. So like, we.. I gotta go, but we'll...}}
[call ends]


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Revision as of 06:22, 13 May 2024

This article covers Daniel's arrest for on the 30th of April 2024, for his several federal charges. For other uses, see Jail (Disambiguation)

Daniel's 4th mugshot. Why the long face?

On April 30, 2024, Daniel was arrested and placed into Jefferson County Detention Facility with the charge being "courtesy housing for another agency", before being transferred out the next day [1] to Clear Creek County Jail. [2]

It was originally thought that this arrest was due to Daniel violating probation several times, as in the days following up to his arrest, Daniel defrauded a Buffalo Wild Wings, and admitted to viewing CSEM.[3] However, according to a call made to his manager, Clark, Daniel was arrested for the several terroristic threats he's made over the years, and according to his claims, he has federal charges which could land him in prison for several years. This was then confirmed by leaked documents, confirming that he had 7 counts of threats, which if all placed on him, could land him in prison for 65 years. This all happened after close to a year of Secret Service agent Daniel MacDougall, who many thought to be a troll at first, investigating him for his various antics, who then put this arrest into place.

Ironically, Daniel was arrested just 28 days before this, and both months prior; making this the fifth time he has been arrested in 2024. However, unlike all of the others, he is ineligible for bond, and there is a chance he will never make bond. Additionally, his manager, Clark, had been apprehended at his job, presumably for being an accomplice to Daniel's actions, although further information is unknown at this time.

This is one of the most significant events in Daniel's life, considering that, as of now, Daniel is currently at risk of being imprisoned for 65 years if found guilty on all charges. Many fans see this as being the final nail in the coffin, with his plot armor truly breaking.

As of November 24, 2024, Daniel is still incarcerated.

Background

Warrant for Daniel's arrest.

On the 25th of April, a warrant was set out for Daniel's arrest due to Daniel having violated his probation multiple times along with other charges, especially since only 2 days after this warrant was issued, he was kicked out of a Pumphouse restaurant by the police on April 27, and the next day he was kicked out of Buffalo Wild Wings after defrauding the restaurant.

On the evening of the 29th, he then went inactive on every one of his social media accounts, his last post saying that he was on the bus back to Boulder. [4]

"Ladies and gentlemen, we got him.".

Daniel is well known for making terroristic threats via social media and has made over 100 threats since 2021, although this habit of threat-making appeared to escalate in the weeks preceding his arrest. A prime example of this trend can be observed in the April 6th Meltdown. Daniel also made numerous threats against Bob Proctor on his YouTube community tab during this time, along with threatening a mass shooting against a hospital after being kicked out for loitering. This was also exacerbated due to Daniel making threats against a real FBI agent interrogating him for threats just like these.

These threats would not serve him in the long run, as the Colorado PD would build a case against him, charging him with 7 counts of threats, which, even if unlikely, could land him in jail for 70 years if he were to be found guilty of all of them.

The Arrest

Daniel was arrested on the afternoon of April 30 during his probation meeting, and booked into the Jefferson County Detention Facility, ineligible for bail. Before it was revealed that he was charged with seven counts of uttering threats, his charge was "courtesy housing for another agency". He was transferred out of the facility the next day to Clear Creek County Jail. [5] [6]

It was revealed that the FBI was made aware of the threats from the July 3rd Community Tab Incident, the August 29th Meltdown, the Christmas Day Meltdown, and the March 23rd Meltdown, and built a case with them. [7]

Looks like management Better Call Saul.

Clark's (alleged) Arrest

On May 3rd, at sometime around 4 PM, Clark, Daniel's current manager, reported in a discord server (presumably where other members of "Management") resided, that police officers had showed up at his place of work. Almost instantly afterward, Clark was said to have been arrested as he was an accomplice to all of Daniel's threats, as well as having alleged contact with the Secret Service agent that got Daniel arrested in the first place. It's highly probable that this is a hoax but there is some validity to the claims as Clark hasn't been seen in the public discord server since.







Time In Jail

Full Phone Call

On May 2nd, the flexburger[8] YouTube channel uploaded the full call between Clark and Daniel. although it is likely that the call took place sometime during the 1st due to a previous leaking of the audio[9]. Portions of the audio are removed by a robotic voice saying "property of Larsonleak". Daniel starts by stating that the feds are looking into Bob's financial situation under the suspicion Bob is committing fraud. Daniel then informs Clark that he has Federal court on Monday (5/6/2024) and has acquired a public defender. Daniel has been deemed a flight risk and the judge said that he is one step away from acting on these threats. Daniel drops a bombshell that the DDRC building had to be evacuated because of his bomb threats.

Full call between Clark and Daniel.
Transcript for First Call

Automated voice: ...call, please hang up and follow facility instructions to register this number as a private number. To consent to this recorded call, press 1. To disconnect... *Clark presses 1* Automated voice: Thank you for using [REDACTED]. You may start the conversation now.

Daniel: Hello?

Clark: Dan? Jesus Christ, Daniel!

Daniel: Hey, can you hear me?

Clark: Yeah, I can hear you. How are you bud?

Daniel: Oh my God, um... I'm doing okay.*Clark stutters*Daniel: Um, the feds pretty much got me.

Clark: The feds got you?

Daniel: Like... yeah. This time the feds got me, and Bob told me that it wasn't going to happen and he didn't believe me. And, I went to probation yesterday and sure enough, the feds were there and they charged me with seven counts of, um, threats- from threats that I made.

Clark: Seven counts of threats?!

Daniel: Yup, under- under federal court.

Clark: Holy shit!

Daniel: Yeah.

Clark: So this... shit! Uh...

Daniel: And... and not only that, the feds apparently are looking into Bob for his finances and the feds are also, on top of that, now looking into my bank statements to see the real amount he was giving me.

Clark: So they think Bob was also committing fraud as well?

Daniel: They think that he's committing fraud.

Clark: Shit! Holy sh-

[video cuts]

Daniel: ...money through his bank account or is he giving you cash and you're putting it into your bank, and I said both.

Clark: Shit! And why, why did they take you up to [REDACTED]? Are you in [REDACTED] or [REDACTED]?

Daniel: I am in flippin' [REDACTED] of all places.

Clark: What the hell? Yeah I- because I missed your call last night because I didn't have my, uh, debit card or my credit card with me and I was like, alright, I'll just have to wait till tomorrow. Everyone said that...

Daniel: Right. Don't worry. Don't worry about that. It's okay.

Clark: OK.

Daniel: Um, I did also talk to the public defender. Um, I have court on Monday.

Clark: OK.

Daniel: OK, and it IS federal court...

Clark: *gasps, whispers* Fuck...

Daniel: ...they were saying that I was a slight risk and all the garbage that they're gonna say, but, it's okay.

Clark: Yeah.

Daniel: But they're looking at trying to put me in, um, like, basically higher security housing.

Clark: Geez!

Daniel: So, it would basically be basic housing, you know, just like *unintelligible*.

[video cuts]

Daniel: Um, they're saying that yes, I would be facing prison time if convicted but my public defender was saying that with me being homeless five years and being out in the cold, whether to point till I feel like I'm gonna die, and I'm panicking. When I panic, I say things that I don't mean-

Clark: True.

Daniel: ...and I didn't mean the threats, I don't know how to make explosive stuff like that, they said that, well, you know, that is true, you know that is- I DEF shouldn't have said. So...

Clark: Wow, that is- that is, that's perfect to say. I would listen to your public defender because he's 100% right. There's no way you could actually make a bomb or do anything that you said.

Daniel: Right, and I don't have a violent history, like, anything like that.

Clark: Exactly.

Daniel: My- the main concern the judge said is that it's one step away from doing so, and that's their concern if I get back out. And they're also concerned that if I get back out I will go back on social media and continue to make threats.

Clark: Holy crap...

Daniel: And... right. And that's what the judge said, and you know what? I'm okay doing a little bit of time, you know? I would rather show I'm gonna be good, you know than, create more issues, right?

Clark: Oh yeah, I agree. I mean, you're-

Daniel: Umm...

Clark: You did well with your 27 days, so.

Daniel: Right.

[video cuts again]

Daniel: ...call you.

Clark: OK.

Daniel: OK, I'm gonna get Grace's number, I'm gonna get Tina's. My public defender also said that they were gonna reach out to Grace.

Clark: OK.

Daniel: So they might reach out to you, they might reach out to Grace, but I did tell them that yes, we are engaged, and they're going to try to reach out to her.

Clark: OK. *inhales, sighs*

Daniel: Um, because they've wanted to let her know that like, I'm okay, and you know, they wanted to see what she wants as well.

Clark: So, are the- are the, are the charges like threats against the government or something like those?

Daniel: It's... I guess they're considering- they're calling it interstate threats.

Clark: OK.

Daniel: They're saying that it's threats and interstate threats.

Clark: Geez...

Daniel: They're not calling it like, terrorist threats, they're not saying anything like that. But they are saying, their biggest concern is apparently DDRC, they had to fully evacuate.

Clark: *chuckles in shock* Geez!

Daniel: And they're saying that that was a big concern. So...

Clark: Oh, after like, comments you made one time they had to evacuate like the whole building or something?

Daniel: Yup, and they brought in bomb-sniffing dogs.

Clark: *chuckling* Jesus Christ!

Daniel: Because like DDRC gets, took it so-

[video cuts, Clark inhales]

Daniel: Which I mean, proves kind of how stupid they are, you know, because they know me so well that like, they know I'm not gonna do that, but *chuckles* kind of ridiculous as you can see!

Clark: *chuckles* Yeah, like why would they even waste their time? They know who you are!

Daniel: Right. Right. Like, they know who I am, I don't know why they're gonna waste their time and then... and not only that, the FBI is saying things about you, um, and not only you, but now a Discord server that I know you're not even in! *coughs*

Clark: Wh- what were they... Jesus Christ, this is a whole mess now!

Daniel: Yeah, so the feds are just trying to get me, you know, like they're- they're trying to call me crazy when this is like, no, because this is what I did and it hap-

[video cuts]

Clark: I agree! Why would you lie, and- I mean, was it MacDou- MacDougall that, MacDougall that picked you up or was it different secret service?

Daniel: Believe it or not, it was MacDougall, MacDougall and he did actually say that like, in the end, he doesn't really care that I did the threats against him, which yes, is a concern and I shouldn't have done it, you know. But he said in the end, that he cares and still- you know, 'cause if he cared, he wouldn't cut contact. *laughs* It's kind of ridiculous, if you ask me!

Clark: Yeah, it's like, I guess he's trying to do his job, but then he knows you so well, he knows the threats aren't- shouldn't be considered real.

Daniel: Right. He knows, he knows that they're not real threats, and then he knows as well, you know like... his concern as well was like, he asked me to stop the first time and I didn't.

Clark: True.

Daniel: And I guess that is his point.

Clark: And he did ask, he did ask me to stop saying that I was an actual lawyer before, because I was still a law student and he did get mad about that. That was a thing that started the whole thing for me.

Daniel: Well, yeah, and I mean, you first got contact, right? It was under crazy circumstances.

Clark: Yeah.

Daniel: Like, you were lying for safety.

Clark: True.

Daniel: At this point, I feel like people need to announce the truth of what's really going on.

Clark: Oh no- I, I agree. It's all gonna come out anyway in the trail, so.

Daniel: Right, and I mean Tina, cuz I mean Daniel MacDougall- Dougall, also told me about, um... Tina's... um, comment, and said like, "Didn't Tina say don't contact Grace anymore?" and I'm sitting there going like, that's months ago, years ago, and since then, Tina is now understanding of what's going on.

Clark: Geez, so yeah, that Instagram comment from a while ago?

Daniel: But anyways, what I' m gonna do is I'm gonna call you back tomorrow...

Clark: OK.

Daniel: OK, um, we might need to figure out a way to put money on my books.

Clark: OK, I can help with that.

[call ends]

Second Phone Call (The Truth Comes Out)

Full call between Clark and Daniel.


From a video posted by Larsonleak raw on the 12th of May, 2024 featuring Kusari, a phone call from the 6th of May 2024 was leaked where Clark had revealed everything to Daniel.

Transcript for Second Call

Automated voice: ...and follow facility instructions to register this number as a private number. To consent to this recorded call, press 1.

Daniel: Hello?

Clark: (firmly) OK Daniel, I need you to listen completely for the next 10 minutes and I need to talk to you, okay? I need you to not interrupt me and I need you to be fucking serious right here cuz this is probably this- the only time, it's one of the most important things I'm ever gonna tell you.

Daniel: OK.

Clark: All of this has been it's... it's fake, man. I mean, I'm not Clark, I'm not a lawyer, I don't work for Interscope. Grace doesn't want to talk to you, there is- Grace, the only reason Grace knows you is 'cause she thinks either a predator and creep, and the only time you've ever talked to Tina was 'cause she was telling you to back away. I mean, it hurts to say, UCLA was fake, Interscope was fake, every single thing we did, it was fake. *Daniel sighs, and can be heard breathing heavily* I mean- None of that was real, Daniel. I mean... and I can't keep leading you on here, and- and, to be honest, you do need to learn your lesson, and I- I know we've acted like friends for the past, what, 9 months, but really, you're sick, you're a sick guy, man. And I tried to give you the benefit of the doubt, then I would see you send those [REDACTED] to 15 year old Sky Brown, say your things, you- you need... you need to get some help, and I've been recording everything, I've- we even worked with MacDougall for a while, and it... I... and I'm done. *stutters a bit* Like, I'm- I... like, it's over man. There isn't anything else to say. I've been lying to you, I've been faking fucking everything, um, Grace doesn't even know who, if she knows who you are, she thinks you're a weirdo, and... yeah. *sighs* I mean, and I get some circumstances, but at the same time, you really are a menace to the streets of Colorado.

[video cuts a bit]

Clark: I'm a 20 year old kid from St. Louis in community college, and I know literally nothing, so. Um, I am gonna say, I won't be answering any more calls anymore. This is probably the last time we'll ever talk.

Daniel: Right. No, I... I understand.

Clark: But you don't. That's the thing, Daniel. You keep convincing yourself, Grace and all that, it's not- she doesn't want you, like, she- I've never talked to her in her life. How do you think all our calls end up on the internet too? Like, I- I mean, you're fucked and I- I... it's, it's over, you know? I'm sorry, not really at the same time, because this has been the fucking weirdest 10 months of my life, and I've had to been talking to a pretty much pedophile for that whole time while also hurting my image, I even got fired for my fucking job in real life for this, Daniel. So *clears throat*

[video cuts]

Daniel: I mean, you do have a point.

Clark: *to person in background* No, I'm in the middle of the most important call of my life right now.

Daniel: *unintelligible* I mean, uh, to be honest, I kind of knew that you were trolling, and that's why I kept qrestioning (questioning) everything.

[Call lasts for another 16 minutes, mostly Daniel giving muffled responses and repeating himself. Clark hangs up.]

Final Phone Call

Daniel called Clark for the last time on May 9, 2024. Clark reluctantly agreed to do this after members convinced him to.

Transcript for Last Call

Automated Voice: ...recorded and may be monitored. If you believe this should be a private call, please hang up and follow facility instructions to register this number as a private number. To consent to this recorded call, press 1. *Clark presses 1* To disconnect... Thank you for using [REDACTED]. You may start the conversation now.

Daniel: Hello?

Clark: Hi Daniel. OK, so pu-

Daniel: Hi. I- Sorry, before you say anything, I wanna tell you that I am extremely sorry and I want to try to fix our friendship.

Clark: I mean, it's not just- I feel like you have a lot of people to say sorry to mostly. Not just me, more like Bob, and the di- the restaurants and all the people that... even Grace in a way for tormenting her and her family for the past couple years.

Daniel: I- I agree and I will take the blame, but I want to fix everything, you know? We all make mistakes and, you know, we all make mistakes and it's how we move forward. Right, and it's how we make progress.

Clark: I agree and I know that Bob's been talking to you recently, so I hope you said sorry to him and everything, 'cause I'm surprise he's even still talking to you after what everything that went down.

Daniel: I- I understand. And you know, with- with Grace I also understand what you said about it.

Clark: And.. that starts with me being honest too, and I regret even all the fake Graces and all that, yeah, that wasn't right to do for Grace too, 'cause I don't know her in real life and I know she was probably not happy with people pretending to be her for the past couple years, so that does start with us too. But, the way you took it was a little too far in some ways, and I mean, and I do think-

Daniel: *interrupts* I-I-I do agree.

Clark: Yeah.

Daniel: You know, I... we've been in contact for so long now, you know what I mean, I- I want us to be friends.

Clark: I mean, you do understand everything I told you though in the last call, like all of this has been pretty much made up. I know it's for you to- to know but you gotta realize that before the trial, before they think you're crazy.

Daniel: Right, and, you know, I- I agree.

Clark: I mean, and...

Daniel: And, *stammers* I do have to say that I do kind of know what, well I do know what my public defender is going to ask tomorrow, but I don't know if they're going to approve it this time or the next court date, but I do know that we're making progress in the right direction.

Clark: OK, well I think this was a good conversation, but everything starts with a couple sorries here and there. Do you have anything that you wanna say to like, everybody out there? Like, 'cause I'm getting people are gonna get these phone calls through that so I- you should, if you wanna explain yourself to everybody on, on Reddit...

Daniel: Right.. you know, what I want- what I want is, I want an apology to the entire fanbase, and not only to the fanbase, but I want, you know, an apology going out about the leaking of the phone calls, stuff like that.

Clark: And just, everything. Even Sky Brown. *chuckles*

Daniel: Just like, literally everything at this point. You know, I mean, if we go into detail, it's gonna be way too much right now.

Clark: True.

Daniel: You know what I mean? And we're on a timed phone call with, you know, money going through. I'm to a point to where, like, I wanna try to fix this with everything, and I want the real truth to be heard.

Clark: And the truth will be heard Daniel. So like, we.. I gotta go, but we'll...

[call ends]

The Charges

Daniel is facing serious legal charges, including "Use or Threatened Use of Explosive" (18 U.S.C. §844(e)) and 1 count of "Interstate Communication of Threats" (18 U.S.C. §875(c))[10]. Each "Use or Threatened Use of Explosive" charge carries a maximum penalty of 10 years in federal prison. Potentially to [11] "Interstate Communication of Threats" could add an additional 5 years. [12] Based off of all 7 charges, the maximum jail time that Daniel could face is 65 years in prison. It is difficult to provide an accurate estimate to the fines that Daniel might face, however, it is likely that Daniel will face a significant fine ranging in the hundreds of thousands to millions of dollars.

As for Daniel's managers, given the fact they indirectly coerced Daniel into making these threats as well as impersonated federal agents, they may be charged with coercion or impersonation, with each carrying a sentence up to 7 years and up to 3 years respectfully[13]. While it is currently unknown whether they indeed got arrested, their recent absence from social media suggests they may've.

Gallery

Court Appearances and Legal Proceedings

Information on Daniel's plea. Mostly legal mumbo jumbo

May 10 appearance

Daniel appeared in court for an arraignment on May 10, 2024, and pleaded not guilty to his charges. [14] Due to this, Daniel, of course, was not let out out jail. Daniel was given a new trial date, set to June 15th.[15]

References