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'''Ox''', also known as '''Oxis''', or '''Ivan''', is a Tiktoker, Daniel Larson's former Twitch live stream manager, and one of the most controversial figures in the Daniel Larson community. Ox | '''Ox''', also known as '''Oxis''', or '''Ivan''', is a Tiktoker, Daniel Larson's former Twitch live stream manager, and one of the most controversial figures in the Daniel Larson community. Ox ran the [[Social Media Accounts|Daniel Larson Twitch account]] and the subsequent links that branch off from it, he also began assisting Daniel and actively track down trolls and former [[Management|managers]] who trolled or manipulated Daniel in the past. | ||
'''Character:''' Ox is often heavily criticized for how he acts towards Daniel and others in the community. Many in the community claim that Ox seems to ignore Daniel's troubled past and instead blames Daniel's actions on either manipulation or mental illness, and never holds Daniel accountable for himself. Similar to [[Papa Gut]], many people also claim that Ox is uneducated on who Daniel is as a person or the current situation he's in. u/BrianTheLarsonist, a longtime moderator of the r/daniellarson subreddit, came out in a [https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/war230/to_address_the_current_situation_regarding/ post] stating that Ox had blocked all communication with him shortly before the attempted mass flagging campaign on the sub, in which Ox had insulted him numerous times and refused to listen to him regarding Daniel's SSI, and how Ox providing a certain amount over his income threshold could risk Daniel losing his SSI. | '''Character:''' Ox is often heavily criticized for how he acts towards Daniel and others in the community. Many in the community claim that Ox seems to ignore Daniel's troubled past and instead blames Daniel's actions on either manipulation or mental illness, and never holds Daniel accountable for himself. Similar to [[Papa Gut]], many people also claim that Ox is uneducated on who Daniel is as a person or the current situation he's in. u/BrianTheLarsonist, a longtime moderator of the r/daniellarson subreddit, came out in a [https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/war230/to_address_the_current_situation_regarding/ post] stating that Ox had blocked all communication with him shortly before the attempted mass flagging campaign on the sub, in which Ox had insulted him numerous times and refused to listen to him regarding Daniel's SSI, and how Ox providing a certain amount over his income threshold could risk Daniel losing his SSI. It was later found this was actually never a problem because everything was in Ox’s name. | ||
Other complaints with Ox include him having some form of hero complex in "saving" Daniel from trolls, in which he makes 3-minute long Tiktok videos threatening action and stating he is gathering evidence | Other complaints with Ox include him having some form of hero complex in "saving" Daniel from trolls, in which he makes 3-minute long Tiktok videos threatening action and stating he is gathering evidence against them. Some dub him a "clout chaser" but these claims are disputable. | ||
None the less, Ox provided majority of Daniel’s food and dozens of hotels sept-august, got him his new Colorado state ID, monitored Daniel’s socials for trolls and is currently attempting to assist Daniel in California, which seems to not be going well. | |||
== Controversy == | == Controversy == | ||
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Some reasonings that make Ox controversial include: | Some reasonings that make Ox controversial include: | ||
'''Twitch Streams:''' Ox has been the subject of scrutiny for his handling of the Daniel Larson Twitch live streams, in which numerous incidents occurred such as Daniel's phone number being leaked to hundreds on air. Ox also seems to have heavily monotonized the Twitch page itself by providing multiple donation links and a fully-fledged merch store all based on Daniel's image, but Ox states that all of the profits earned through these means go to assist Daniel and not himself. This is a large point of contention in the community however as the merch website features Daniel only by name and does not depict any images of him in either the modeling photos or on the merch itself, as well as the DaniellarsonTv twitch streams being mostly comprised of facecam video of Oxis himself. | '''Twitch Streams:''' Ox has been the subject of scrutiny for his handling of the Daniel Larson Twitch live streams, in which numerous incidents occurred such as Daniel's phone number being leaked to hundreds on air. Ox also seems to have heavily monotonized (<-Retard) the Twitch page itself by providing multiple donation links and a fully-fledged merch store all based on Daniel's image, but Ox states that all of the profits earned through these means go to assist Daniel and not himself. A large array of screenshots were provided in Daniel’s official twitch discord to prove these claims. This is a large point of contention in the community however as the merch website features Daniel only by name and does not depict any images of him in either the modeling photos or on the merch itself, as well as the DaniellarsonTv twitch streams being mostly comprised of facecam video of Oxis himself. | ||
'''r/daniellarson Subreddit Raid:''' In late July of 2022, Ox amassed his Twitch and Tiktok audience to instigate a mass flagging campaign against the r/daniellarson subreddit, claiming that the usage of NSFW content of Daniel was the reasoning behind the attack. While proving to be unsuccessful in banning the sub, it caused many in the sub to immediately dislike him and cause a fury storm of posts expressing their disdain for him. | '''r/daniellarson Subreddit Raid:''' In late July of 2022, Ox amassed his Twitch and Tiktok audience to instigate a mass flagging campaign against the r/daniellarson subreddit, claiming that the usage of NSFW content of Daniel was the reasoning behind the attack. While proving to be unsuccessful in banning the sub, it caused many in the sub to immediately dislike him and cause a fury storm of posts expressing their disdain for him. | ||
'''Doxxing:''' There are numerous instances of Ox threatening to dox people who he deems to be harassing and abusing mentally disabled creators online. | '''Doxxing:''' There are numerous instances of Ox threatening to dox people who he deems to be harassing and abusing mentally disabled creators online. Ox claims to have already amassed a lot of information. One of Ox's prime targets is a user by the name of murk, the suspected troll behind Dave Vanderwaal. [[Grace VanderWaal|VanderWaal]]. | ||
== First Falling Out == | == First Falling Out == | ||
Revision as of 11:53, 2 February 2023
Ox, also known as Oxis, or Ivan, is a Tiktoker, Daniel Larson's former Twitch live stream manager, and one of the most controversial figures in the Daniel Larson community. Ox ran the Daniel Larson Twitch account and the subsequent links that branch off from it, he also began assisting Daniel and actively track down trolls and former managers who trolled or manipulated Daniel in the past.
Character: Ox is often heavily criticized for how he acts towards Daniel and others in the community. Many in the community claim that Ox seems to ignore Daniel's troubled past and instead blames Daniel's actions on either manipulation or mental illness, and never holds Daniel accountable for himself. Similar to Papa Gut, many people also claim that Ox is uneducated on who Daniel is as a person or the current situation he's in. u/BrianTheLarsonist, a longtime moderator of the r/daniellarson subreddit, came out in a post stating that Ox had blocked all communication with him shortly before the attempted mass flagging campaign on the sub, in which Ox had insulted him numerous times and refused to listen to him regarding Daniel's SSI, and how Ox providing a certain amount over his income threshold could risk Daniel losing his SSI. It was later found this was actually never a problem because everything was in Ox’s name.
Other complaints with Ox include him having some form of hero complex in "saving" Daniel from trolls, in which he makes 3-minute long Tiktok videos threatening action and stating he is gathering evidence against them. Some dub him a "clout chaser" but these claims are disputable.
None the less, Ox provided majority of Daniel’s food and dozens of hotels sept-august, got him his new Colorado state ID, monitored Daniel’s socials for trolls and is currently attempting to assist Daniel in California, which seems to not be going well.
Controversy
Ox is a largely controversial figure in the community, with many debating whether or not he's a genuine person trying to help Daniel out, or a person with a hero-complex causing trouble.
Some reasonings that make Ox controversial include:
Twitch Streams: Ox has been the subject of scrutiny for his handling of the Daniel Larson Twitch live streams, in which numerous incidents occurred such as Daniel's phone number being leaked to hundreds on air. Ox also seems to have heavily monotonized (<-Retard) the Twitch page itself by providing multiple donation links and a fully-fledged merch store all based on Daniel's image, but Ox states that all of the profits earned through these means go to assist Daniel and not himself. A large array of screenshots were provided in Daniel’s official twitch discord to prove these claims. This is a large point of contention in the community however as the merch website features Daniel only by name and does not depict any images of him in either the modeling photos or on the merch itself, as well as the DaniellarsonTv twitch streams being mostly comprised of facecam video of Oxis himself.
r/daniellarson Subreddit Raid: In late July of 2022, Ox amassed his Twitch and Tiktok audience to instigate a mass flagging campaign against the r/daniellarson subreddit, claiming that the usage of NSFW content of Daniel was the reasoning behind the attack. While proving to be unsuccessful in banning the sub, it caused many in the sub to immediately dislike him and cause a fury storm of posts expressing their disdain for him.
Doxxing: There are numerous instances of Ox threatening to dox people who he deems to be harassing and abusing mentally disabled creators online. Ox claims to have already amassed a lot of information. One of Ox's prime targets is a user by the name of murk, the suspected troll behind Dave Vanderwaal. VanderWaal.
First Falling Out
As with a lot of fans who try and help Daniel. Daniel ends up having a hard time seeing any good that may have helped him. On July 30rd 2022 Daniel uploaded a video saying that ox was a bitch, Ox then stitched the video from the same account responding to the attack referencing a famous Daniel video about Quandale Dingle
Nuclear Attack
On August 2nd, 2022 Ox made a donation goal to prank Daniel with a fake Nuclear Attack video. Causing more tension between the two.
Meet Up
On October 26th, 2022 Ox met Daniel Larson in person for the first time. Ox gave Daniel a pink sweatshirt that said "Code Rainbow" a reference to one of the hundreds of codes that Daniel has given his "Emergencies". They had lunch and live-streamed during the visit on the "daniellarsonsafe" TikTok account. Ox bought Daniels lunch which according to Ox was a large amount of food. During the stream they gambled some of Ox's money, Daniel once made a smart gambling move by depositing $5 and pulling out when he had $5.11 profiting a sweet 11 cents.
Ox Quits
On January 15, 2023 Ox uploaded a video in which he explains that Daniel is refusing services for him in Denver and will never be going back, citing his warrants and court date absences. After trolls were able to convince Daniel to block Ox he met up with him and explained that he would no longer help Daniel with trolls online. He told him he was Daniels friend and that he will still try and get him some dry clothes. Ox goes on to admit that it took him a while to see that Daniel and his trolls are like "yin and yang"; Since Daniel wants so badly to be famous and to be dating Grace, and trolls will always pretend to be something that can achieve that Daniel will always fall for it. Ox told Daniel some harsh realities, such that Daniel is a laughing stock and has never met grace. Ox reported nothing seems to get through to him, and he has no control over Daniel, "he will never be off the internet, and he will never be somewhere where he is watched 24/7". Ox says he will watch from a far and intervene if "something super wild happens".