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Tina VanderWaal is the mother of 18-year-old singer (and Daniel's crush) [[Grace VanderWaal]]. Daniel messaged her only to find that Tina wanted nothing to do with him and advised him to seek mental help. He proceeded to threaten suicide.
Tina VanderWaal is the mother of the 18-year-old singer (and Daniel's crush) [[Grace VanderWaal]], whom [[Daniel Larson]] was stalking and harassing. Daniel messaged her only to find that Tina wanted nothing to do with him and advised him to seek [[Daniel Larson's health|mental help]], to which Daniel threatened suicide.
[[File:Gracesmom.png|thumb|Photo posted by [https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/w7z9cu/not_mine_from_our_discord_daniel_has_spoken_with/ BrainTheLarsonist] from the Daniel Larson World Discord]]
[[File:Gracesmom.png|thumb|Photo posted by [https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/w7z9cu/not_mine_from_our_discord_daniel_has_spoken_with/ BrainTheLarsonist] from the Daniel Larson World Discord]]
== DMs with Daniel ==
Daniel would message Tina multiple times about him dating Grace VanderWaal, who were all actually catfishes made up by trolls.
Tina responded harshly a day later, saying:<blockquote>''"Stop saying my daughters name. Stop saying you are in a relationship with her. You are scaring her and our family. Everything you have said and done has been in your own mind. You need to access some mental health support and stop harassing my daughter. I have contacted the authorities and will continue to press the issue of you don't stop making disturbing videos. You followers have harassed my daughter long enough. STOP. "'' </blockquote>Daniel Larson would respond distraightly, saying:<blockquote>'''"I understand'''
'''I'm ending my life tonight'''
'''Everyone has messed up everything.'''
'''I understand what you and your family-"'''</blockquote>The rest of his message is cut off.


== YouTube Comment ==
== YouTube Comment ==
On August 13th 2022 the YouTube account "Wall Studio"  left a comment on a live stream [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfB0H9Cy9ow VOD] titled "Daniel Larson Live Update / Grace Vanderwaal.". The account only had a single video uploaded a year ago, however user [https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/wom63n/proof_tina_comment_is_real/ ThiccWalrus79] on reddit was able to match objects in the room with Instagram posts made by Tina. <blockquote>God Daniel….. do you think I’m watching your lives? whoever just contacted you claiming to be me was not me. I have no idea who Ox even is. I don’t want you to talk about Grace or our family anymore. I have only replied to you once when you DM’d me a couple of weeks ago - then I told you to stop saying Grace’s name but clearly you refuse to listen. Stop all of this. Everyone communicating with you are trolls trying to get you to do crazy things. Please STOP.</blockquote>This comment also mentions the previous incident where Tina replied to one of many of Daniels texts.  
On August 13th, 2022 the YouTube account "Wall Studio"  left a comment on a live stream [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfB0H9Cy9ow VOD] titled "Daniel Larson Live Update / Grace Vanderwaal". The account only had a single video uploaded a year ago, however, user [https://www.reddit.com/r/Daniellarson/comments/wom63n/proof_tina_comment_is_real/ ThiccWalrus79] on Reddit was able to match objects in the room with Instagram posts made by Tina. <blockquote>''"God Daniel….. do you think I’m watching your lives? whoever just contacted you claiming to be me was not me. I have no idea who Ox even is. I don’t want you to talk about Grace or our family anymore. I have only replied to you once when you DM’d me a couple of weeks ago - then I told you to stop saying Grace’s name but clearly you refuse to listen. Stop all of this. Everyone communicating with you are trolls trying to get you to do crazy things. Please STOP."''</blockquote>This comment also mentions the previous incident where Tina replied to one of many of Daniel's texts.


Daniel replied to this comment 28 times over the course of a couple of hours begging for forgiveness and help. Tina only responded once more, to Daniels first reply stating "Ok I understand. I have a important question if you don't mind?". Tina's response is far from unpredictable<blockquote>I do mind. Stop everything to do with our family ESPECIALLY my daughter. You are making me reply publicly so you can’t censor what I’m actually saying to you. I’ve spoken to DDRC as well as the Denver police and Denver FBI. Do you really want to continue this? Again, just stop. Your reality is not real.</blockquote>
Daniel replied to this comment 28 times over the course of a couple of hours begging for forgiveness and help. Tina only responded once more, to Daniel's first reply asking:<blockquote>'''"Ok I understand. I have an important question if you don't mind?"'''</blockquote>Tina's response is far from unpredictable.<blockquote>''"I do mind. Stop everything to do with our family ESPECIALLY my daughter. You are making me reply publicly so you can’t censor what I’m actually saying to you. I’ve spoken to DDRC as well as the Denver police and Denver FBI. Do you really want to continue this? Again, just stop. Your reality is not real."''</blockquote>

Revision as of 20:00, 7 April 2023

Tina VanderWaal is the mother of the 18-year-old singer (and Daniel's crush) Grace VanderWaal, whom Daniel Larson was stalking and harassing. Daniel messaged her only to find that Tina wanted nothing to do with him and advised him to seek mental help, to which Daniel threatened suicide.

Photo posted by BrainTheLarsonist from the Daniel Larson World Discord

DMs with Daniel

Daniel would message Tina multiple times about him dating Grace VanderWaal, who were all actually catfishes made up by trolls.

Tina responded harshly a day later, saying:

"Stop saying my daughters name. Stop saying you are in a relationship with her. You are scaring her and our family. Everything you have said and done has been in your own mind. You need to access some mental health support and stop harassing my daughter. I have contacted the authorities and will continue to press the issue of you don't stop making disturbing videos. You followers have harassed my daughter long enough. STOP. "

Daniel Larson would respond distraightly, saying:

"I understand

I'm ending my life tonight

Everyone has messed up everything.

I understand what you and your family-"

The rest of his message is cut off.

YouTube Comment

On August 13th, 2022 the YouTube account "Wall Studio" left a comment on a live stream VOD titled "Daniel Larson Live Update / Grace Vanderwaal". The account only had a single video uploaded a year ago, however, user ThiccWalrus79 on Reddit was able to match objects in the room with Instagram posts made by Tina.

"God Daniel….. do you think I’m watching your lives? whoever just contacted you claiming to be me was not me. I have no idea who Ox even is. I don’t want you to talk about Grace or our family anymore. I have only replied to you once when you DM’d me a couple of weeks ago - then I told you to stop saying Grace’s name but clearly you refuse to listen. Stop all of this. Everyone communicating with you are trolls trying to get you to do crazy things. Please STOP."

This comment also mentions the previous incident where Tina replied to one of many of Daniel's texts. Daniel replied to this comment 28 times over the course of a couple of hours begging for forgiveness and help. Tina only responded once more, to Daniel's first reply asking:

"Ok I understand. I have an important question if you don't mind?"

Tina's response is far from unpredictable.

"I do mind. Stop everything to do with our family ESPECIALLY my daughter. You are making me reply publicly so you can’t censor what I’m actually saying to you. I’ve spoken to DDRC as well as the Denver police and Denver FBI. Do you really want to continue this? Again, just stop. Your reality is not real."